Interview with Barbara Says…


What we like to see is a design that has no author but that has time, or in which time ends up diluting the idea of an author, since somehow the quality of the design was the work of several people in a cooperative and collective effort.


António Gomes, art director and founder of Barbara says…



maat New Visual Identity — The creative process

In this video, recorded in April 2020 at the Barbara says… studio, a former butcher’s shop in Lisbon, Cláudia Castelo and António Silveira Gomes talk about the challenge they faced with the invitation to create a new visual concept for maat. They provide us with an insight into the process and the idea they developed in dialogue with the museum team, allowing a glimpse into their vision of the design practice.



Barbara says... is a graphic design studio based in Lisbon founded by António Silveira Gomes and Cláudia Castelo. It was responsible for creating maat’s new visual identity.